Tuesday, January 16, 2007

eBay Members Fear New Policy Will Inhibit Buyer Bids

eBay's new "Safeguarding Member IDs" (SMI) policy is coming under scrutiny from users who are concerned it will decrease bidding activity on the site. In recent days, members began noticing that when they looked at an eBay auction, they were unable to see bidder User IDs once the bidding had reached $200. Some fear eBay's new policy will have the unintended consequence of increased shill bidding by dishonest sellers, as well as decreasing bidding by buyers concerned about the lack of transparency.

Laurie Farnam, who buys and sells antique furniture on eBay, said, "No way will I get involved if I can't review a bidding history." Farnam said she has never gotten involved in eBay politics, "but I am now. I'm anxious, I'm angry."

eBay launched the SMI policy in an attempt to reduce fake "Second Chance Offers." eBay's Senior Vice President of Global Trust & Safety Rob Chesnut stated that the policy was a "significant step forward in protecting eBay's bidders, who have increasingly become targets for unwanted commercial and malicious spam, such as phishing, spoof, and fake Second Chance Offers." But eBay users like Farnam have questioned why eBay has kept the Second Chance Offer feature given its usage by scammers.

Farnam is an avid clock collector. Her most expensive eBay acquisition was a mantel clock she purchased for over $600 - "a mistake," she said laughingly. She sells some of her collection during lean times - her highest price for a clock sale was over $900. "I still miss it."

Farnam, who has studied the new information eBay provides in place of Bidder IDs, said it's not enough. "You can pick up a scent if someone that's not righteous participates in the auction. I've been burned, and you get an antenna that goes up when you've been burned."

Farnam, who joined eBay in March 2000, said she is also concerned about the message eBay is sending by applying the policy to high-value items only - the policy hides bidder IDs once bidding reaches $200. "So a $1.00 difference in price at $199 doesn't require protection from the bad guys?"

Some users are skeptical that eBay's shill-bidding detection system is adequate, and many rely on their own research to make bidding decisions.

Ken Walton, author of "Fake: Forgery, Lies, & eBay," said he believes eBay's fraud detection is more stringent than when he was selling artwork on the auction site. His book chronicles his exploits as a participant in the biggest known shill-bidding ring on eBay. Walton said masking the identities of bidders would have made it easier for him, and said, "we might have fallen under the radar." Instead, Walton and his cohorts were exposed by their eBay trading partners. Walton pled guilty to fraud in 2001.

Walton said that while ultimately the new feature may not lead to an increase in shill bidding, it will make it easier for those sellers who do use shills to escape detection.

eBay's Chesnut said in his board announcement that eBay has invested heavily in shill detection systems. "We can proactively detect and investigate possible shill bidding scenarios with a higher rate of accuracy than ever before. These backend systems collect more information on selling and bidding activity than our Community has access to, so we can detect patterns and ascertain identities much more accurately" (http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200701081004422.html).

eBay is hosting top sellers at its annual Ecommerce Forum this week in San Jose, where eBay North America President Bill Cobb is scheduled to webcast his keynote address in which he may reveal additional initiatives.

http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y07/m01/i16/s01

3 comments:

PhilipCohen said...

eBay introduces absolute anonymity for (shill) bidders

In Australia, the UK, Ireland and the Philippines, eBay has obscured auction bidding to the point that genuine bidders have got absolutely no chance of detecting and thereby protecting themselves from “shill” bidding (a criminal offence in most civilized countries) by unethical vendors.

Notwithstanding eBay’s statements to the contrary, this application of absolute anonymity (ie, Bidder 1, Bidder 2, etc) by eBay on these sites serves absolutely no purpose other than to deceive consumers by making even any otherwise blatantly obvious shill bidding undetectable; and the same criticism has always been applicable to eBay’s other shill bidders’ facility, “User ID kept private”.

My concern then is not so much about the effectively bidder-specific anonymity (“a***b (n)”) now in use in the US and elsewhere (and which still allows genuine bidders the opportunity to watch for suspicious patterns of bidding) but with the absolute anonymity (“Bidder N”) in use in Australia, the UK, Ireland and the Philippines.

Again, notwithstanding eBay’s various pronouncements about shill bidding being banned on eBay, eBay is now, on these sites, effectively (and knowingly) “aiding and abetting” such shill bidders to defraud consumers. [more]

For those with a longer attention span, a lengthy critical analysis of this matter appears at:
http://www.auctionbytes.com/forum/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=6498345#6498345
I apologise in advance for the length of this linked “rant”. Needless to say eBay would not tolerate it on their discussion forums and I have spent time on eBay’s “naughty chair” for posting links to it.

If you are an unethical shill-bidding seller or a buyer who is not concerned that on the above-mentioned national sites eBay is effectively “aiding and abetting” such shill-bidding sellers to cheat you, read no further.

Sam said...

Phillip,

I have come across a few people who wanted to try shill bidding and every one of them got booted from eBay, which means eBay has a good monitoring system that will catch those who shill and will suspend them from the site.

On eBay.com, shill bidding used to be a huge problem but when eBay came out with their system the issue did stop and that is no longer a threat.

With all the eBay negative changes at least there are some positive things said about eBay :)

PhilipCohen said...

Sam,

You have had a different experience to me; it took three reports over a couple months for me to get a blatant shill-bidding dealer removed; other minor experiences I have reported went nowhere.

The point is that, with internat trading, records exist of everything and if eBay actually had any sophisticated active filtering of data to detect shill bidding there would NOT be any for genuine bidders to be concerned about.

Unfortunately, I would now not trust eBay as far as I could kick them.